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Did Biden Act Like A “Creepy Grandpa”?
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Some excerpts from the article:
"Okay, this is all just really stupid, regarding Uncle Joe's touchy-feely ways. Are we trying to pretend this was some sort of state secret?
What's really happening here is that the 76-year-old Biden is now trying mightily to reconcile the old Democrat Party of Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy with the ever-shifting liberal PC codes of the present. Biden, though, has made a critical mistake. What has he done? He's been apologizing in an effort to court the far-left. And now, on the campaign trail, the candidates who would benefit the most from a Joe-less field -- they don't care about the apologies. They're pouncing.
"I have no reason not to believe Lucy," Bernie Sanders said in an interview on CBS. "And I think what this speaks to is the need to fundamentally change the culture of this country."
"Fundamentally change the culture of the country." Hmmm."
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Biden was in the wh, he was hand picked, what do you make of that?
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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What do you mean?
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Maybe, to avoid having Hillary Clinton as a probable VP?
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probably true, though much better choices than either one of those 2 and it was Obama's choice after all.
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probably true, though much better choices than either one of those 2 and it was Obama's choice after all.
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In many cultures, in contrary, it would be seen as weird if a person did NOT do this kind of thing. Our society is full of sensibilities and anxieties when it comes to close interaction between individuals, but, say, in many Middle-Eastern cultures it is absolutely standard for two male friends to kiss each other when meeting after having not seen each other for a long time. Or in India, people pat each other on the shoulder all the time, even with those they have just met for the first time.
There are many things in Biden to criticize, but this is not one of them.
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Ok, I see now... To be fair, he's from a generation where it was ok... This behavior is quite ok elsewhere in the world... The "personal space bubble" size is not just culturally dependent but it's also a generational thing imo... That said, he must acknowledge that in 2019 in the US, perceptions have changed (regardless if it's a good thing or not) and change his behavior accordingly...
Doesn't really matter to me in the end as I wouldn't vote for him anyway...
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dude I'm 52, that's not ok, nor do i EVER recall a time when it was, not with children, this justification and rationalizing it away is purely political. Regardless you'd think as time went on he'd change his behavior, this is an educated man, and or others would have addressed this behavior I would think. How come no one else his age engages in the same or similar behavior? it never occurred to him at any point in the last oh I dunno 20+ years he needed to change and stop this? Is he some kind of mental defect? Dude is a closet perv in my mind there is no doubt.
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You're entitled to your opinion... And as I said, I don't care one bit as I wouldn't vote for him anyway...
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in the videos with the little girls, that is your daughter, still ok because that's normal for him/his generation?
it's not about voting for him or not, it's about hypocrisy of condemning individuals but when someone else is in the wrong it's just explained away, justified, excused or rationalized.
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Also interesting that you are throwing the responsibility for Biden on every single person on the left. Plenty of people didn't like him. Plenty of people voted for both Obama and Trump. Get over your us vs them attitude.
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I was explaining to Plaffelvohfen why "To be fair, he's from a generation where it was ok" it's no ok and why he hasn't been really condemned for doing it all these years including the 8 he was in the white house. he also said "We have a vulgar grabber in the WH so meh......." like there's some kind of scale as the level of depravity or some kind of comparison, Trump did/said this so what Biden is doing is ok sort of thing. Now that Biden doesn't seem to be useful to the party they are going to force him to the back of the line, because NOW what he's been doing all these years is wrong.
that plain enough for you to understand now?
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"it's not about voting for him or not, it's about hypocrisy of condemning individuals but when someone else is in the wrong it's just explained away, justified, excused or rationalized."
I never said you didn't care about the action I just said you cared more about hypocrisy than the action.
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you know what I feel and think? you are amazing
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I understand what you are saying especially with European cultures, but what he's doing is much more than that. Being from Italy I have never witnessed what he does with other people's children, stranger's children in any of the areas I have been in (I only passed through France)
Now you say it's part of his generation. He's not the only one from that generation left alive so where's the pictures and videos of other men from his generation doing the same kind of things if it is in fact normal?
Boys get kicked out of kindergarten for kissing girls these days.
I would also draw your attention to how long he keeps his hands on the children (notice they are all girls) the ones who try to pull away, he doesn't back off and in some I've seen he moves closer to them. I just don't see this as being normal for any culture or time period.
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I think you're seeing what you want to see and it's fine... I just don't see the same thing, nothing more to say really...
I won't climb in this outrage train, if others want to it's their business...
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On a similar note, I have absolutely no problem with Trump's bus comments. While I do have certain problem with the morals behind the described behavior, ultimately nobody is supposed to be a morally ideal individual. As Berlusconi once said, "I am no saint". And that is how it should be. We need weird people, we need those who go over the societal norms and push the society's comfort zone further. Otherwise all we will have left is a society of robots all of which behave the same way.
Let Biden do his thing. I do not like his policies, and I would never vote for him (although, to be fair, he is much more tame than most Democrats these days, and him becoming the president would not be a catastrophe) - but this overreaction to a few photos is not reasonable, and is somewhat totalitarian.
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saying and doing is very different, how you can equate dirty talk to handling young girls I can't understand.
so you say this normal behavior?
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I was talking about the act Trump was talking about, not the fact of him talking about it. Whether he talked about it or not is not even a factor here.
As far as "normal" behaviors go, I personally could not care less what is "normal" and what is not. People who do everything in order to try to be "normal" might as well be ants in a hive, as they have no unique features and try hard to conform with the communal expectations.
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Talk about hypocrisy...
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"they have no unique features and try hard to conform with the communal expectations."
no comment on the video, which btw is just a few samples of what is out there but I can understand why you wouldn't comment,
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defending dirty talk? sure freedom of speech right? If he's brought up on charges for doing something illegal then fine, but talk is cheep as they say. bfd
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Same goes for Biden no? Are charges being brought against him?
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you don't believe your own eyes? Was Trump being truthful or just b.s.ing? how do you know which? What Trump said he did was consensual and not with children right?
you are ok with what you saw in the video, there's more of course but those can't make it any worse really.
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rofl, she came up to him, he didn't stroke or smell her hair, rub her chest etc, she showed no discomfort unlike all the girls Biden handled and in at least one of those pictures that baby appears to be a boy, Biden doesn't have a thing for boys, in the videos you can see some were present, but he ignores them, yet you seem to be fine with it which is your right I guess.
that was a laughable attempt, seriously.
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People are allowed to scream at the cashier cashing them out at Walmart, but other guests calling them out for being an asshole and shaming them, or giving other consequences is absolutely reasonable. Yelling at your cashier isn't pushing the societal boundaries, it's being a self centered asshole without regard for others. Not illegal, but ability deserving of societal consequences.
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I'm not saying it should be of no consequence, I mean, at least 2 women are clearly uncomfortable, and considering the social climate since 2010 or so, he definitely should have known better.
But I'm saying it's an American thing (and I guess Japan is even stricter), where I live though, no one would have an issue with it, at least with the kisses, shoulder grab and close whispering, it's just a fact... Now if you talk about "grabbing junk" it's another matter...
I'm also saying there's a double standard with regards to Trump...
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"I'm also saying there's a double standard with regards to Trump..."
your kidding right? when that stuff surfaced about Trump a huge deal was made about it by many in both parties. Show me the same level reaction to what Biden has been ON FILM doing to little girls. NOW he realizes society has changed and you shouldn't invade people's personal space, now that stuff is being said about, now he's come to the realization, though he offered no apologies to anyone he may have made feel uncomfortable.
For me there's a huge difference between what I can see with my own eyes vs what someone says. have you never known a braggart who says things they didn't do or exaggerates them greatly?
Do old men handle little girls in the manner he does in your country? Is that common? strangers little girls not family members.
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Yup... More so with campaigning politicians looking for photo-op, you know, kissing & hugging people and babies is normal around here for politicians... It does happen that someone gets uncomfortable when hugged or kissed by someone they don't like, of course, but it is straightened out on the spot, the politician apologizes and people move on, we do not make a big deal out of this, what do you want me to say, that's just how things are here, are you going to blame me for it?
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in general I would agree with that, however this is more than hugging and kissing as evidenced by the videos of him placing his hands either directly on little girls chests or other areas. As I said a grandfather type would do most of this stuff with children, not just girls. I get people love children, but when an old man just focuses on girls only, yeah that's being creepy. And when someone is pulling away or attempting to don't you think anyone in the right mind would let them go? Or does none of this apply to Biden but it does to everyone else?
Now I'm not saying all his actions are creepy, but there are some, and I'm not understanding why you don't think so. Perhaps I'll look up some videos of what i am talking about so you can know exactly.
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It's a cultural thing... It's like guns, I (and the vast majority of people around here) don't get the obsession around guns in the US, it's so alien to me/us...
I do understand that in an american context Biden's behavior can be seen as inappropriate, I don't deny that...
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if that's true that would be worse, do you have proof for such an extreme claim? I don't recall any charges or anything of the sort, but I don't know everything either.
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